The Centre for Liveable Cities (CLC) invited Carsten Haurum, CEO of Copenhagen’s Culture and Leisure Administration to the CLC Lecture Series. This is an excerpt from the lecture, where Mr Haurum explains why the measuring of returns for cultural and leisure activities is not useful for planners. For the full video, visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXYtBanh_ms&feature=youtu.be