We've all been apathetic. But what causes it and what can you do about it? Listen in as Karina Hulstrom, Gareth Russell, Tim Hawkes and I discussed what turned out to be a bigger conversation than we expected. This is part one of a three part conversation. Learn more about the participants: Karina Hulstrom: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karina-hulstrom-720a0149/ Gareth Russell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethrussellofficial/ Tim Hawkes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timhawkes/ Robyn Odegaard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynodegaard/